Turkey, Pakistan plot to control Afghanistan
Rick Rozoff
The three-day Antalya Diplomacy Forum started in southern Turkey on June 18. According to the Turkish Foreign Ministry, its participants include ten current and three former heads of state and government (presidents and prime ministers), 42 foreign ministers and over 50 representatives of international organizations.
Topics of discussion include the Balkans, the future of Europe, trans-Atlantic relations, refugees and migrants and terrorism (which with Turkey is usually a reference to the Kurdish Workers’ Party and affiliates). A session was scheduled on Turkey’s proposal for an Eastern Mediterranean conference as well.
The conference is another reflection of Ankara’s ambition to establish itself not only as a regional but a latent global power. Evidence of that policy has been seen from the military side in places ranging from Libya to the Caucasus and from Iraq and Syria to Afghanistan.
Speaking on the sidelines on the first day of the event, the foreign minister of Pakistan, Shah Mahmood Qureshi, called for joint Pakistani-Turkish cooperation in Afghanistan after all U.S. and other NATO forces (except Turkey’s) are withdrawn. Qureshi was quoted by a reporter from Daily Sabah as stating: “I will be meeting the Turkish foreign minister on June 20 and I have to hear him out about what is their proposal. I do not know the details yet.”
After meeting with the leaders of several other NATO countries at the June 14 NATO summit in Brussels, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said he intended to invite Pakistan and Hungary to join Turkey in playing a security role in Afghanistan after the departure of U.S. and NATO military forces. Pakistan is an obvious choice for him, as the two nations are solidifying cooperation in several spheres, including the military, but Hungary is not so obvious a selection. One possibility is that the nation has hosted the multinational NATO-supported Strategic Airlift Capability since 2008 and would be best qualified to share control of the Hamid Karzai International Airport with NATO ally Turkey.
Erdoğan, with characteristic lack of timidity, said that his nation was the only one that could continue a foreign security function in Afghanistan after the general withdrawal.
On June 17 the Afghan Foreign Ministry said that Cihad Erginay, the Turkish ambassador to Afghanistan, met with Afghan Foreign Minister Mohammad Haneef Atmar. Turkey advocated bringing Pakistan into the reconciliation process – by which it might be understood to mean negotiations between the government of President Ashraf Ghani and the Taliban – and its envoy spoke both of continuing a NATO role in the nation and recruiting “the support of regional countries, especially Pakistan” in Afghanistan.
The population of Afghanistan is over 40% Pashtun and some 12% Turkic (Uzbek and Turkmen). The first gives Pakistan and the second Turkey the influence of ethnic and linguistic affinity. The largely autonomous warlord in the north, ethnic Uzbek Abdul Rashid Dostum, has lived in Turkey and owns property there. He recently threatened Afghan President Ghani with the prospect of a South Turkestan (with Turkish backing) if Kabul doesn’t meet his demands.
Turkey dominates the Turkic Council, which also includes its de facto province Azerbaijan and three of Afghanistan’s neighbors in Central Asia: Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan.
Afghanistan has an estimated population of close to 40 million. Pakistan has a population of 225 million and Turkey of 85 million.
In what is a revealing indication of what may lie at the root of a Turkish-Pakistani alliance not only in Afghanistan but also much further afield, at the beginning of the month the speaker of the Turkish parliament, Mustafa Şentop, was in Pakistan where he met with Pakistani President Arif Alvi. The Turkish parliamentarian was quoted by the Daily Sabah as stating Turkey and Pakistan should lead the Islamic world together.
A Turkish-Pakistani axis, replete as it would be with nuclear weapons, would be a force – a military force – to contend with; a combination of NATO’s largest member state outside North America and the most populous of NATO’s forty partners.
Reblogged this on Piazza della Carina.
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The world is reforming itself after decades of Euro centric western domination. A nuclear Turkic Pakistan alliance would definitely give Indias Modi severe heartburn. Is the Ottoman Empire poised to rise again? How the Hungarians will fare remains to be seen.
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An Ankara-Baku-Islamabad axis means war in Eurasia and perhaps beyond. Targets include India (Modi or post-Modi, it doesn’t matter; this is naked geopolitics aside from the racial/theocratic underpinnings of the above alliance), Armenia, Iran, Syria, Iraq,Tajikistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, the Russian North Caucasus (Chechnya, Daghestan, Ingushetia) and, perhaps sooner than expected, China’s Xinjiang province.
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Very good. Thanks. No illness Turkish lira and arms can’t cure.
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My thoughts exactly.
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Good old Dostum, he of the ‘canned pows’ celebrity. I wondered what had happened to him.
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I’m sure he will be back in Afghanistan with the help of his good buddy Erdogan. Erdogan is begging to take over Afghanistan terror ops.
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Erdogan is on a real roll, a la his ‘presidential system’ model Hitler, NK was his ‘Anschluss moment’, bringing Azerbaijan back into the Fatherland fold, and validating his neo-Ottomanic/irredentist strategy, and thriving on appeasement and favor-bidding from all and sundry. He is now well positioned with ally Pakistan to dominate the NATO-vacated Afghanistan (other than by NATO deputy-honcho Turkey itself that is), tying a grateful Pakistan with its long ambitions in Afghanistan to his side, and opening a veritable ‘Nuke Midmight Express’ between the two. This is shaping up to be a real power Axis, with Russia and China also largely on side, happy to collaborate in anything that gets back at the hated US-UK-NATO foe, even via NATO-owning Turkey, and creates a Greater Eurasia bloc free of Western interference, even if, with enough of its own internal conflicts and fissures. But back to Erdogan, he is playing his position astride both Europe and Asia, NATO and the SCO, for all it’s worth, and more. This guy could go far indeed, Hitler at least faced real if tired empires and powers, if slow to wake up, Erdogan is facing overblown halfwit clowns dangling from strings over a teetering house of cards, and he evidently knows it.
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Turkey to Send Terrorists from Syria to Afghanistan
translated from French on Voltaire
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Thanks a lot. I also fear that when Afghanistan is finished tens of thousands of local and extra-regional jihadis/mercenaries in Afghanistan will be transferred across Pakistan to Kashmir. That could lead to a conflict between nuclear powers.
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That’s probably why Modi was trying to bribe the Taliban. Obviously they told him to get lost because now he’s even denying that he tried to talk to them.
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Taliban leaders were in Moscow today – though Russia still brands Taliban a terrorist organization.
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Taliban are jihadis but they’re also Pashtuns. Pashtunism cuts both ways; helps Pakistan expand influence in Afghanistan (as with 1992 and 1996), but also creates problems with Taliban in Pakistan. That’s why Islamabad allowed Obama to kills thousands with drone strikes in FATA. Taliban is meant for export not for domestic consumption.
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To continue our discussion on the topic, this is from the WSJ:
Pakistan, After Rooting for Afghanistan’s Taliban, Faces a Blowback
Islamabad wants a negotiated agreement, fears that outright Taliban takeover would galvanize Pakistani jihadists
https://www.wsj.com/articles/pakistan-after-rooting-for-afghanistans-taliban-faces-a-blowback-11625822762
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Thank you
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I guess taliban will try to control weakened pakistan having nuclear capability to become a global force
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